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Off Road 4 Kids Aug 21-23 Vermont

2009-06-29T16:20:50Z

Event Information
Offroad4kids is an event designed to directly benefit the youth of the MentorWorks program. 100% of the money raised will be used for monthly events, field trips and weekly activities.

On the weekend of August 21st - 23rd we will be offroading in and around scenic Bennington and Arlington, VT.

We have three levels of trails organized: One for stock or slightly modified vehicles or first timers; another, for vehicles with lift, larger than stock tires and drivers with some experience; and the third will be for those looking for the ultimate experience, willing to let go of their affection for sheet metal and sacrifice parts to the trail.

Your registration fee of $40 covers your vehicle registration, trail guides and a Saturday afternoon Barbecue at the Hoosick Falls Youth and Community Center. Your weekend of offroading fun will help to sustain this worthwhile program. If you are unable to attend but interested in supporting the program please write that on the registration form when you mail in your check.

Registration IS MANDATORY and is first come first serve until we reach the max of 100 trucks. This should be a fun laid back event. We have a campground working with us. Here is the basic info the rest can be found at www.offroad4kids.com

MentorWorks is a program that is helping the youth of Hoosick Falls, New York develop their talents and potential through one-on-one partnerships with caring adults. Research has shown that caring adults can improve a child's chance for: academic success, increased self-esteem, and avoidance of risky behaviors. Many of the youth have a desperate need for positive adult role models. The number of single-parent homes and two-parent working families has increased dramatically and support networks are needed to support them in the busyness of their daily lives.

Mentors provide friendship and encouragement to young people from all types of homes and all social and economic levels. They help youth develop their strengths and talents and reinforce the positive efforts made by other significant adults in their lives. By supporting them during times of personal and social stress, and providing guidance for decision-making, mentors help children and youth become responsible men and women.

2nd Annual Fowler Classic (10th Annual July Off-Road Weekend) July 17-18th - Tremont, PA

2009-05-27T14:49:00Z

Make plans now for the 2nd Annual Fowler Classic. This will be our 10th annual summer trip and we are going to try out a new location this year. We are planning on going to Rausch Creek Off-Road park in Tremont, PA. Many of us will be arriving on the afternoon/evening of Thursday, July 16th and camping at the park. Friday and Saturday will be off-roading days with a departure on Sunday AM. The park consists of 1,700 acres of easy, intermediate, and hard trails. Rocks, bowls, hills, the glacial "Rock Creek", and club friendly trails. More details on the site can be found at the link below:
Click here to go to Rausch Creek website.
The website has details on the park as well as on-site camping and other nearby camping/lodging options.
Click here to go to Event Signup Form.
If you have problems using the on-line form, please email flrc@erovers.com.
Also, feel free to complete the Rausch Creek Membership Forms that can be downloaded here:
Rausch Creek Forms.

13th Annual US Invasion - Corfu NY August 1-2nd

2009-05-27T14:43:00Z

The 13^th Annual US Invasion is Coming Soon!!

August 1^st & 2^nd, 2009 in Corfu, NY

Reservations being taken NOW. Due to a number of “No Shows” and last minute cancellations in the past and after the success of the program last year – we ask participants to pre-pay again this year, mostly so we can give the caterer correct numbers for Food and order the correct sizes for T-shirts.

An RSVP Form is attached that asks: Number of participants, Type of Vehicle(s), T-shirt Size for each person, whether you plan on staying overnight and where, any special Food Restrictions, etc.

All Reservations must be received by July 17^th

Event Name: 13^th Annual LOCC US Invasion Weekend

Date: Saturday August 1^st (with Camping available thru Sunday August 2^nd)

Time: First Trail ride will begin at approximately 10:00 AM Saturday

Location: The Warren Farm, Route 5, Corfu, NY

Directions: Take the New York State Thruway to Exit 48A. After the Tollbooth, turn right onto Route 77 South. At the top of the hill (Traffic signal), turn left onto Route 5 East. We are the first house on the right - look for all the vehicles on the field.

* Early Bird Registration Cost: $30 Per Person for participants ($10 for Children age 12 & under) – includes a Custom-designed commemorative T-shirt, Family Barbecue, Soda, Coffee, Water, "primitive" camping on-site (Porta Potty will be available) prizes & Games.

Events to Include: Off-road "Trail Rides" on 300+ Acres of Privately-owned land (everything from Green Lanes to technical woods trails to Full-on Mud Whumpin'), Various Skills events, Catered Family Barbecue Dinner, Bonfire, Family-style camping

Things to Bring: Sunscreen, Bug Repellent

For off-roaders: Recovery gear (tow straps, winch, etc.), Mud boots, your off-road vehicle (any make or model will be accepted)

For Campers: Camping Gear (Tent or camper, sleeping bag, propane stove, etc.), any "Adult Beverages" you wish to consume at the Bonfire (After the driving is all done), Food for Breakfast on Sunday (we will provide Coffee, Tea & Donuts both mornings), extra clothes & boots (in case you get Muddy). Sorry, no campfires will be permitted in the Camping meadow.

Please Note: If you wish to arrive on Friday Afternoon / Evening to camp out for an early start, you can do this, but please let me know to expect you. You can also Camp out Saturday night. We do not allow alcoholic beverages during the day while the driving is going on, but you are welcome to BYOB if you are staying the night and come make merry with us around the bonfire.

If you have any further questions, you can call me (or my husband Gavin) directly at 585-599-4801 evenings (we have an answering machine and will call you back if we are not home) or on my Cell phone at 716-866-6888. (or just drop me an e-mail).

* Hurry! Early Bird Registration ends June 30^th – Price goes up to $35 July 1

Please note – after July 17^th there is no guarantee on Food or T-shirt

Details and registration form are also available on the website with a PayPal payment option at www.pjworiginals.com

Click on the US Invasion pages...

Land Rover LRX Making Its Debut

2008-05-02T14:21:00Z

Land Rover will be showcasing its smaller, four wheel drive concept vehicle in Detroit. The Land Rover LRX is being designed to fit below the LR2 and is categorized as a cross-coupe or compact SUV. Looking very much like a modern Land Rover, the LRX takes Rover's family design to the next level with its tight styling and aggressive stance. Land Rover says the LRX will feature advanced green technologies, and while it will be tuned for the highway, will still have the Hill Descent Control and Terrain Response systems found in the rest of the Rover lineup. (Source: Four Wheeler, April 2008)

Celebrate 60 Years of Land Rover with a Limited Edition 90 (Not in the USA of course)

2008-05-01T13:06:00Z

As part of its 60th birthday celebration in 2008, Land Rover has announced plans to offer a limited edition Defender SVX, based on the Defender 90. Only 200 SVX's (in both hard and soft tops) will be produced and will feature individually numbered plaques, as well as tubular side steps, front grille surround, unique five-spoke alloy wheels, a reinforced aluminum front skidplate, and clear LED rear lights. The interior add custom Recaro front seats, aluminum gear knobs, and a new high-end audio, system with Garmin GPS. If only they would send a few our way. Maybe for the 100th Birthday. (Source: Four Wheeler, March 2008).

Ford Motor Co. has picked India's Tata Motors Ltd. to buy its Jaguar and Land Rover units

2008-01-04T15:09:00Z

(AP) Ford Motor Co. has picked India's Tata Motors Ltd. as the top bidder to buy its Jaguar and Land Rover units, the Detroit automaker said Thursday.

Ford said in a statement that it has entered into "focused negotiations at a more detailed level" with Tata, which means Tata has been picked as a preferred bidder for the storied British automakers.

"There is still a considerable amount of work to do, and while no final decision has been made, we will proceed with further substantive discussions with Tata Motors over the forthcoming weeks with a view to securing an agreement that is in the best interests of all parties concerned," Lewis Booth, executive vice president of Ford's European units, said in a statement.

Jaguar and Land Rover employees in the United Kingdom were told about the negotiations Thursday morning shortly before the company made the announcement.

Ford executives have said they expect to announce the sale of the two British automakers early this year.

Ford spokesman Jay Ward in London would not comment on how much Tata bid for the automakers, nor would he say if the other two bidders, Indian automaker Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. and U.S. private equity firm One Equity Partners LLC, were still in the running.

But a person who has been briefed on the negotiations said Thursday that Mahindra and One Equity still are under consideration, although Tata is the likely buyer unless negotiations fall through.

"Ford hasn't told them to go away, and that's the end of it," the person told The Associated Press. "Tata's emerged as the preferred partner."

The person requested anonymity because the talks are confidential.

In a statement issued Thursday, Mumbai-based Tata Motors confirmed that it is negotiating with Ford.

"We are now entering a period of more focused and detailed negotiations with Ford. We hope both parties can reach an agreement in the forthcoming weeks, though these are complex discussions and there is still much work that needs to be done before that position is reached," the statement said. "We are pleased by the progress in the discussions to date and very positive about the prospects of this business going forward."

Last month people close to the negotiations told the AP the potential suitors had submitted bids for both companies that ranged from $1.5 billion to $2 billion.

Tony Woodley, general secretary of Unite, Jaguar and Land Rover's main labor union, said much still needs to be negotiated with Tata.

"We need further and more detailed meetings and discussions with Ford and Tata which will focus on the job security of our members in the Jaguar, Land Rover and Ford plants in the U.K.," he said in a statement.

"There are also crucial issues around wages, terms and conditions and pensions to address before any final decision is considered."

Unite has said it would prefer Tata if the company is sold.

Unions in the United Kingdom are seeking assurances that the sale would not affect employment levels. Combined, Jaguar and Land Rover employ about 15,300 in the U.K.

Ford is interested in maintaining its parts supply relationship with the new owners of Jaguar and Land Rover. The company builds engines for Jaguar in Europe.

Industry analysts have said Ford would like to find a buyer who would preserve the Jaguar and Land Rover heritage and jobs in the U.K. Ford, which is the top auto seller in the U.K., doesn't want to rankle its British customers, they said.

Cash-hungry Ford, which lost $12.6 billion in 2006 but earned $88 million in the first nine months of 2007, has been looking to sell Jaguar and Land Rover.

It has mortgaged its assets to borrow money to stay operating and expects to burn up $12 billion to $14 billion until 2009, when it plans to return to sustained profitability.

Jaguar and Land Rover have been hit by unfavorable exchange rates and high production costs in Britain.

Ford bought Jaguar for $2.5 billion in 1989 and Land Rover for $2.7 billion in 2000, joining them with Aston Martin and Volvo to form its Premier Automotive Group.

Earlier this year Ford completed the sale of its controlling stake in Aston Martin for $931 million in cash and preferred stock.

Ford has said it plans to keep Volvo for now, fixing its cost structure and making it a more premium brand.

John Holtz Sells Land Rover Dealership to Piehler Jaguar

2007-11-28T01:34:00Z

John Holtz has announced that his Land Rover dealership has been sold to Piehler Jaguar Land Rover Webster. This was confirmed in letters sent out to Holtz customers, stating that as of November 30th, 2007, Piehler should be contacted for all future Land Rover needs. The letter also noted that Holtz will continue to provide sales, service and support for Acura, Audi, BMW, Honda, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche. It went on to say that they "also sell and service a full selection of imported and domestic pre-owned vehicles at all our locations," which seems to imply that they will continue to sell and service used Land Rover vehicles out of their dealerships, despite the sale of the Land Rover division.

The letter called this a "necessary business decision for Holtz House of Vehicles, and we are confidant (sic) that the Piehler organization will serve you well." This announcement comes on the heels of recent reports that the entire suite of dealerships is being sold to an out-of-state (see below).

Mark Ventrillo, Piehler Jaguar Land Rover General Manager, is given as the contact for all requests at 585-671-7909 or jaguarsales@rochester.rr.com.

Report That John Holtz Dealerships May Be Sold
(as reported by wham1180.com)

There's a report that one of Rochester's leading car dealers is selling his dealerships.

(13-WHAM ) There's a report that one of Rochester's leading car dealers is selling his dealerships.

Several sources confirmed for 13-WHAM that John Holtz is being bought out by Lithia, a large publicly-held company.

(A spokesman for Lithia tells WHAM News they don't comment on any deals until they are finalized)

All of the Holtz dealerships including Honda, are included in the deal, according to sources, and keeping current employees on board is part of the deal.

John Holtz tells 13-WHAM, "No comment."

Land Rover Announces Details of 2008 G4 Challenge

2007-11-09T18:57:00Z

The Land Rover G4 Challenge - the ultimate global adventure bringing together 18 nations in mixed-gender teams.

In a significant expansion to the previous events run in 2003 and 2006, the 2008/09 Land Rover G4 Challenge will involve mixed-gender national teams. Competitors from 18 different countries, who can now register their interest on www.landroverg4challenge.com, will battle through a rigorous national and international selection process. The best male and female from each nation will enter the Challenge itself, which will take place in Asia in early 2009.

The event will again have off-road driving at its core, combined with adventure sports and extreme initiative challenges for an ultimate test of team spirit and physical fitness. The entire Land Rover fleet will be involved, with the Range Rover Sport, Freelander 2 and Discovery 3 all in action as competition vehicles in the distinctive Tangiers Orange colour. The victorious national team will win a Land Rover for their National Red Cross or Red Crescent Society. Sign up for updates and registration information

Eric's October 2007 LRL Interview

2007-11-02T15:39:00Z

Club Member and Atlantic British Sale Rep, Eric Riston, was recently showcased in the October 2007 issue of Land Rover Lifestyle magazine. For those of you that don't get the publication, you can download a copy here: Eric Riston Article To subscribe to the magazine, visit www.lrlmag.com.

Tech Tip: Top Discovery (and RR Classic) Weak Spots

2007-11-02T15:26:00Z

Four Wheeler Magazine recently ran an article on the top 23 weak spots on the Discovery 1 (many of which also apply to the RR Classics around that timeframe as well). These include drivetrain, suspension and other pesky items. Four Wheeler Article

Tech Tip: Compression Test on Rover V8

2007-11-01T23:55:00Z

Here is guide to running a compression test on your Land Rover's V8. It will help you locate some common sources of poor engine performance. Click here for details.

Tech Tip: Power Door Locks (RR Classic / Disco 1)

2007-11-01T23:49:00Z

One of the nicest convenience features fitted to Land Rovers since the 1987 Range Rover hit the US shores, was the power door locking system. Unfortunately after years of use the system starts to malfunction, turning one of the most convenient features into one of the most frustrating ones. The good news is that the system is very straightforward and you can somewhat easily service the various parts to get everything working again. Click Here for Details

Navteq Updates for Range Rover CD Navigation

2007-10-16T13:08:00Z

Navteq has released updated software for CD-based Navigation systems found in model year 2000-2004 vehicles. New 8-CD set features over 6.1 million road miles - an increase of more than 1.6 million miles. Pricing is $199 + s/h and can be ordered on-line at www.navigation.com/rangerover07 or by calling 1-888-628-6275.

Just Added: Photo Archives

2007-10-16T01:43:00Z

Photo Gallery

Click this link for some pictures from the erovers.com archives.

Send your pics to flrc@erovers.com.

Photos: 2007 Adirondack Weekend

2007-10-14T17:35:00Z

Click here for some photos from the club Adirondack event in July. We could use some more so, pease send any that you may have taken to flrc@erovers.com

Troubleshooting ABS Light on RR Classic and Disco 1's

2007-10-14T16:27:00Z

Troubleshooting Why Your ABS Light is On - Range Rover Classic and Discovery 1

If your ABS Light is illumintated and you are not near a dealer or other diagnostic equipment, you can use the blink method to determine what is causing the fault. First locate and remove the ABS Warning Light Relay from the group of relays underneath the seat (consult owner's guide for specific vehicle location, if needed). Then, find the blue 4 pin connector under the front of the driver's seat on the RR (or under the black, cardboard lower dash on the Disco-1) and jumper the black to black/pink wire with the key on – a paperclip will work.

The ABS light will first flash a long then short blink to indicate the system is indiagnostic mode. Then you will start to get a flash sequence. Don’t panic cause the code will repeat. There will be a set of flashes then a pause then another set of flashes then a long pause then it will repeat that code 2 more times. You are counting two sets of flashes (i.e. blink, blink, pause, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink would be code 2-6 or “Stop Light Switch Fault…see codes below.) To clear the code…you need to remove the jumper during the flash sequence.

Note: You may have more than one code to clear so don’t panic if you clear the code and another sequence begins. It will continue to flash the code(s) until it has been displayed then the ABS light will stay on. Turn the key off then back on & reinsert the jumper to go to the next code. If you are not sure of a code just leave the jumper in & cycle the key on & off to restart the sequence. Write down each code as you go & erase each one by pulling the jumper during the blink sequence to erase that code. When you pull the jumper, allow the sequence to finish. The ABS light will stay on after the code has finished blinking. Let me know if you need any more help or if you need to know what the codes mean.

The ABS code series always starts with the following sequence of 1 long, 1 short, pause 1 long, and 1 short. It then goes into displaying the codes. Every code starts with 2 pulses on (2.5s each) and then a series of pulses which are the rest of the code.

Codes:

2-12 Front Right

2-13 Rear Left

2-14 Front left

2-15 Rear Right

Reason: Too large an air gap, or sensor has been forced out by exciter ring – try tapping sensor back into place.

5-12 front right

5-13 rear left

5-14 front left

5-15 Rear Right

Reason: Sensor wire has an intermittent fault – check connection(s).

6-12 front right

6-13 rear left

6-14 front left

6-15 rear right

Reason: no output from sensor. Sensor may have too large an air gap. Try tapping in sensor(s), check connections.

4-12 Front right

4- 13 rear left

4- 14 front left

4- 15 rear right

Reason: Wiring to sensor is broken or sensor resistance is too high. Inspect wiring at sensors.

2-6 Stop light switch

Reason: Faulty switch or wiring. Replace brake light switch.

Code 2-7: Continous supply to the ECU with the ignition off. Faulty valve relay or wiring.

Code 2-8: No voltage to ABS Solenoid valves. Faulty valve relay or wiring.

Codes 3-0 to 3-9: Open circuit or connection from ECU to solenoid valve in booster, or in ECU.

Codes 4-0 to 4-9: Short circuit to earth from ECU to solenoid valve in booster.

Codes 5-0 to 5-9: Short circuit to 12 volts in connection from ECU to solenoid

valve in booster. Possible earth fault.

Codes 6-0 to 6-9: Short circuit between two connections from ECU to solenoid valve in booster.

Thanks to the folks at the Rovers North Bulletin Board who posted this information. Quicker and cheaper than a trip to the dealer.

Door Lock Repair (Range Rover Classic)

2007-10-13T02:38:00Z

One of the nicest convenience features fitted to Land Rovers since the 1987 Range Rover hit the US shores, was the power door locking system. With the touch of a button you can quickly lock and unlock all of your doors and tailgate. Unfortunately after years of use the system starts to malfunction, turning one of the most convenient features into one of the most frustrating ones. The good news is that the system is very straightforward and you can somewhat easily service the various parts to get everything working again.

The central door locking system is activated from both driver and front passenger doors. A switch/lock actuator is fitted in both front doors.

Front and rear passenger doors can be independently locked or unlocked from inside vehicle but can be overridden by further operation of driver’s door locking control.

Now according to the instruction and repair manuals, failure of one actuator will not affect locking of remaining three doors, tailgate or fuel filler flap. I have found that if one of the front doors is not locking properly, it can effect the operation of the entire locking system, because the front doors control the locking and unlocking of all doors. For instance, if the driver door is not properly locking, you may find this inhibits the other doors from locking and often sends the system into a rapid/erratic locking/unlocking “loop.” But by following the procedures here, you should be able to return all four doors to their original condition.

Fusible Link Repair (Range Rover Classic, Discovery 1)

2007-10-13T02:31:00Z

If you have a Range Rover Classic or Discovery 1 that is getting up there in age and has had its share of use, not to mention exposure to western New York winters, you may soon find out how a fusible link works. Sometime in the 1992 Model Year, Land Rover introduced the fusible link as an added protection to the electrical systems in the Range Rover. This system also was used in the Discoverys. If you experience a number of sudden and simultaneous failures of various electrical systems and components, there is a good chance that you have blown your fusible link. Click here to view the latest Technical Article.

Nov 2-4; Cooperstown-Area: Guy Fawkes Rover Weekend 2007

2007-10-11T18:57:00Z

Howard will be hosting his annual Guy Fawkes Rover Weekend on November 2-4...Yes now 3 days of festivities. He would like to have a headcount, so please contact him at WreckerFC@aol.com to RSVP. Howard is located in the Cooperstown, NY area and this event gets better each year (I think).